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Old Aug 29, 2008, 04:42 PM // 16:42   #1
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Angry Kormir.

I have grown tired of being in a mission with Kormir, and while your putting in lots of hard work, our glorious spearmarshal stands around holding a spear, and seems incapable of actually using it. Now i understand Kormir was blinded, however, she still is able to use shouts and follow you around, so WHY OH WHY can't Kormir actually do something useful.

Is it only me who feels like this? I dont know, but others I've spoken to in game also have a growing hatred for Kormir. And, was Kormir only really designed to stand around following you holding a spear doing nothing towards the latter parts of the Nightfall, where you could actually do with a little more support, I dont know. But, Prince Rurik, Master Togo, Brother Mhenlo, Gadd and so many more people were capable of helping out.

That's just my opinion, anyway :P
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 04:45 PM // 16:45   #2
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Because, ANet didn't want to punish us with another Prince Leeroy character?
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 04:49 PM // 16:49   #3
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Simple... it's because at the start of the game there are NPC's to show you how to do the basics like use skills and synergy and whatnot. Later in the game they needed an NPC to show people how to do other things, like leech.
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 04:55 PM // 16:55   #4
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Actually, I found her the most irritating during Jokanur Diggings. 'Why is the Ghostly Sunspear's health going down - OMG WTF IS KORMIR DOING'.

I'd much rather have her inactive than Leeroying, especially in situations where you have to keep her alive.
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 04:56 PM // 16:56   #5
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Yeah, I prefer not losing the game do to a random NPC dieing, as opposed to having a useless 7th party member.
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 04:57 PM // 16:57   #6
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But, Prince Rurik, Master Togo, Brother Mhenlo, Gadd and so many more people were capable of helping out.
No they were capable of helping you fail the mission by running into Mobs and dying horribly. I'm pretty thankful you dont have to babysit Kormir.
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 05:00 PM // 17:00   #7
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But, Prince Rurik, Master Togo, Brother Mhenlo, Gadd and so many more people were capable of helping out.
Gadd? Are you serious? Gadd is almost as bad as Rurik. Anything that spams [[Iron Mist] on enemies needs to die a horrible and painful death.

Oh yeah....that's convenient.

I don't like NPC's running off into battles and causing problems for my team. I like my own pace. *coughrurikcough*
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 05:03 PM // 17:03   #8
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Yes, It is good that Kormir doesnt have to die all the time, but she could do something like shouts, or attacks . Besides, they shouldn't really die, If your heroes actually heal them, and in GW:EN if they die, you can still continue the mission and they get ressed, which imo should have happened in the other campaigns as well .
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 05:06 PM // 17:06   #9
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*gasps* KORMIR IS BLINDEDEDEDED?! NO WAI!!!

/sarcasm


Anywho, yeah, I like not having to babysit Kormir like I have to baby sit Leroy Rurik. o_O;
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 05:09 PM // 17:09   #10
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Yes, It is good that Kormir doesnt have to die all the time, but she could do something like shouts, or attacks .
Shouts would be OK. Attacks wouldn't. The NPCs like Rurik and Jalis (who are both melee characters) act like they're on aggressive, and they keep attacking, even when they're not equipped to (read: Jalis vs the Mursaat in THK HM).

Which is, uh, kind of what happened to me in Jokanur - she attacked Random Little Red Dot On The Radar, which turned out to be a Ghostly Sunspear. As far as I'm concerned, her attacks are a bigger problem than her standing still >.>
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 05:12 PM // 17:12   #11
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Simple... it's because at the start of the game there are NPC's to show you how to do the basics like use skills and synergy and whatnot. Later in the game they needed an NPC to show people how to do other things, like leech.
I literally ROFLed.

Back on Topic: Yes, I agree, and what is worse, we are the ones that have to break our asses killing a god and SHE GETS TO BECOME A GOD??!!! O.o WTF?
Where is the Justice?
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 05:22 PM // 17:22   #12
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It makes sense that Kormir would cease fighting when she becomes blinded.

For anyone who has played through the Ascalon missions in Prophecies, they should understand the Rurik dilemma. Rurik likes to aggro everything in sight and occasionally ends up dying towards the end of the mission. Similarly in Jokanur Diggings as has been mentioned, Kormir is uncontrollable in a situation where she can easily wreck the bonus. I would personally rather her stay out of combat starting in (or perhaps after) Chahbek because her level 20 awesomeness breeds laziness in players and doesn't encourage good tactics. If the goal is to have Kormir assisting the party, perhaps give her a couple ally affecting shouts (currently she has solely [incoming] which only affects her) and changed to not attack.

Some good candidates for her buffs: [never give up] [never surrender] [aria of zeal] [aria of restoration] [zealous anthem]
So essentially some generic martial/caster buffs (although only give 1 or 2)
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 05:29 PM // 17:29   #13
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Kormir acts like a doorstop in Abaddon's Gate. Literally. I get stuck in her a lot while she idles here and there.

She would make a great tank. Oh well...
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 05:35 PM // 17:35   #14
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lol if those npc's actually had a usefull skillbar instead of annoying the heck out of you (Gadd => he needs to die) or any other leroy npc you have to babysit during a mission to actually finish it, no thnx.

Idiot togo and Idiot mhenlo allready annoyed the crap out of me in factions i don't need another leroy idiot running around aggroing every possible mob in a mission
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 05:35 PM // 17:35   #15
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One character more or less doing nothing really doesn't matter when the game is soooooo easy.


PuG screams: OMG don't ball with them fire impz! NoobZ!

So my point is. I rather not have Kormir f*ck up my bonus because I really don't need some NPC's help to finish anything.

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Old Aug 29, 2008, 05:46 PM // 17:46   #16
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It would be nice if komir atleast used shouts..
But I rather enemies do not attack her.
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 05:50 PM // 17:50   #17
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She is annoying. If she goes after the Sunspear Ghosts, she's annoying. When she stands around and does absolutely nothing, she's annoying.

And I agree, I'd rather not have to worry about her dying and the mission or whatever failing. It would be nice if she could shout, but like said, I really would rather not have to keep an eye on her for fear of death.
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 05:58 PM // 17:58   #18
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She's annoying no matter what she does. Aggroing stuff, saying long speeches, standing there leeching...

I'd rather have her leech though tbh << Shouts would be verrry nice, but meh
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 06:09 PM // 18:09   #19
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Actually, I found her the most irritating during Jokanur Diggings. 'Why is the Ghostly Sunspear's health going down - OMG WTF IS KORMIR DOING'.
OMG - that is so true!

"Thanks, ANet, for creating a NPC who actually causes you to fail the mission!" (I know, Leeroy Rurick wasn't much better.)

So, yeah - there are plenty of times where I wish you could just let Kormir get killed or leave her altogether. I mean, in Jokanur, she's the highest level of any of us, and she's the one we have to keep alive? Thankfully, it's not that hard - just annoying.
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 06:49 PM // 18:49   #20
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haha! I simply h8 kormir! she's so noob that if she could help she'd make you unable to ever try to play NF =0

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